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B series transmission guide

B-Series Transmission Guide

By: Chet Hewitt

B-series Transmissions

In response to recent questions about different transmissions I think its important to shed some light into the ones available for our b-series motors. There are many differences between B-series transmissions and I’ve never found an article describing the positives and negatives of each unit. Below, you’ll see transmission codes, the car it’s found in, and whether or not it has factory LSD. It’s important to realize that Honda didn’t make it easy for us to distinguish between transmissions. For example, almost all transmissions found in Integra’s are stamped S80. This includes the tall LS transmission and the ultra short JDM Type-R transmission. In some cases, the only way to determine which transmission you really have is to take it apart and count the number of teeth on the ring gear. Obviously, in most cases it’s not practical to take your transmission apart to determine which one you have. To be safe when acquiring a transmission, you should identify the seller; try to identify the car and or motor it came with.

B16A (Cable), B16A2 (Hydro), B16A3(Hydro):
S4C, S80, Y80, Y21, Y1 (optional LSD)

As most of you know the B16A was featured in Japan between the years of 1989 through 2001. This engine has had several different transmissions mated to it causing some potential confusion.

First, it’s important to realize that first generation B16A’s came with cable transmissions. The Y1 came with optional factory LSD and should have LSD stamped on the transmission. Determining whether or not a transmission has LSD is very simple, just look into the differential and see if its opened or closed. For those not familiar with this, you’ll either see a set of gears that form a closed cylinder, or you’ll see an open differential with a bar splitting the middle.

Typically these transmissions have had weak synchro’s in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears with 3rd gears crunching the most. Its also worth noting that all of the transmissions minus the Y1 have very weak open differentials making it essential that you upgrade if your putting a lot of power to the ground.

As far as gearing, these transmissions are all pretty short. Here is a listing of the gear ratios and final drive, courtesy of www.bseries.net.

1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.107
5th: 0.848
Reverse: 3.000
Final Drive: 4.400

In conclusion, this transmission is good for all motor and should bring between 500-700 if its hydraulic while cable transmissions are worth between 400-600. Please be careful that the transmission you’re buying doesn’t have bad synchro’s because a lot of them have been beaten on and this is the first problem you’ll have. Plus, if you’re making a lot of power, 170 to the wheels, be prepared to replace your differential because these can be broken with regularity.

B16B (Hydraulic):
S4C (LSD)

The transmission found in the Civic Type R is highly sought after and very rare. Its gear ratio’s are identical to that of the B16A’s but has a stronger limited slip and dual synchro’s in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears. Expect to pay between 1000-1200 for a genuine CTR transmission because they’re rare and well worth the price. Its also worth mentioning that these transmissions are Hydraulic type.

B17A1 (Cable):
YS1

This transmission is found on the rare “blacksheep” of b-series motors. The most important feature here is that its cable-type. This means you can bolt this into any 93 and older integra and 91 and older civic without having to change to hydraulic. The synchro’s on this transmission are still considered weak, however the gearing is very good for all motor applications as its identical to the B16A transmissions. Finally, this transmission did not have factory LSD, so keep that in mind when someone is trying to tell you otherwise. Look to pay between 400-600 dollars for this transmission, although its going to be difficult to find and usually when you do, there is something wrong with it.

B18A1 (Cable):
YS1

Again, you’ll see how Honda didn’t help us out any with the stamping on this transmission. These transmissions however, are much different in there gearing. This transmission has a longer first and second gear with slightly longer 3rd and 4th gears. The final drive is still 4.40:1 making this a possibility for all motor applications, but not your best choice. You’ll be able to find this transmission in 90-93 Integra’s and they’re all cable-type. The prices for these should range between 200-400 for clean, good working units. Paying anymore is pointless, as these transmissions are everywhere.

B18B1 (Hydro):
S80/Y80

This is probably the easiest b-series transmission to find because it’s found in every non-VTEC 94-01 Integra. Most notably, this transmission is the longest of all b-series transmissions and has the weakest synchro’s and weakest differential. The final drive is 4.266:1 and each of the gears is longer compared to its B16A counterparts. For boost, a lot of people like the gearing of this transmission, plus gas mileage is great and they’re very cheap. Look to pay no more than 500 for a clean LS tranny because they’re everywhere.

Here is a look at the Specs.

1st: 3.230
2nd: 1.90
3rd: 1.269
4th: 0.966
5th: 0.714
Reverse: 3.000
Final Drive: 4.266:1

B18C:
S80/Y80 (Optional LSD)

The transmission found in JDM GSR’s is very popular and overall an excellent transmission. For all motor and boost applicatiosn this transmission has excellent gearing and a stronger differential compared to its B16A and B18B counterparts. The transmissions with LSD should have “LSD” stamped on the casing and to make sure, inspect the differential and use the parameters I described before to identify whether or not the transmission really has LSD. Look to pay between 700-1200 for this transmission depending on whether its LSD equipped. Also worth mentioning, these transmissions are all hydraulic.

Here is a look at the specs:

1st: 3.230
2nd: 1.900
3rd: 1.360
4th: 1.034
5th: 0.787
Reverse: 3.000
Final Drive: 4.400

B18C1:
Y80

This transmission is found in all USDM GSR’s. Although LSD was not offered these transmissions are still highly sought after because of their stronger differentials and optimal gearing. For those not interested in ultra-short gearing this transmission provides the perfect balance between acceleration and top end. Look to pay around 700-1000 for these transmissions.

The specs are the same as above:

1st: 3.230
2nd: 1.900
3rd: 1.360
4th: 1.034
5th: 0.787
Reverse: 3.000
Final Drive: 4.400

B18C5:
S80 (Helical LSD)

This transmission is one of the best B-series transmissions Honda has offered in its vehicles. Every gear has dual synchro’s and the gearing is perfect for all motor applications. Plus, LSD is standard and will be stamped on the housing. Look to spend between 1200-1400 for these transmissions because of their quality, LSD, age and gear ratio’s. Finally, if there is some question about whether or not you’re S80 has 4.4 final drive or 4.7 final drive you can check the transmission housing. The code “4jhd” means 4.4 final drive was offered as original equipment, while “ne3” signifies 4.78 final drive.

The specs are below:

1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.107
5th: 0.848
Reverse: 3.000
Final Drive: 4.400

B18C (JDM Type R):
S80 (Helical LSD)

JDM Type R transmissions are the best for all motor applications where acceleration is emphasized most. All 98 and up JDM Type R transmissions came with 4.785 final drive with the same 1st, 2nd, 3rd gears as the USDM Type R. To make highway driving more tolerable, the 4th and 5th gears are the same as GSR transmissions. Look to spend between 1400-1600 for these transmissions because of their final drive and rarity.

Here is a look at the specs:

1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.034
5th: 0.787
Reverse: 3.000
Final Drive: 4.785

Sources: Cory Thompson, www.bseries.net

Nema predaje, nema povlačenja 20.i 21.05.2017

Kontaktirali smo Mešu, kako bi potvrdili da neće biti odgađanja trke, bez ozbira na vremenske uslove u Mostaru.

Nema predaje, nema povlačenja! 

Prije par minuta AK Hercegovina objavila je tekst kojeg prenosimo lektorisanog:

Važna obavijest!
Na ovoj utrci postojat će kazne za sve one koji se budu ponašali onako kako to ne dozvoljava pravilnik trke i sve odredbe koje je propisao organizator. 
Svako divljanje u predstartnom prostoru, svako neoglašavanje na zapovjedi sudija, pogrešna parkiranja u parku vozača (svako vozilo mora biti parkirano iza žute crte, tako da se promet u predstartnom prostoru odvija nesmetano) i za mnogo toga što će biti objašnjeno na sastanku vozača,  dobija se jedna kazna. Vozač koji dobije dvije kazne automatski će biti diskvalificiran i morat će napustiti trku, tako da svi pročiatate pravilnik i ponašate se u skladu sa pravilima.


Fernando Alonso 
U Španiji Honda starta sa sedme pozicije, potvrđujući spor, pouzdan i konstantan napredak. U trci stvari nisu bile naklonjene Fernandu, nama je žao ali on je previše želio. Ne ide to tako. U Japanu je postepena ali konstantna promjena filozofija života a ego i ambicija se moraju kontrolisati. Honda želi da radi sama, ne želi da bude na stazi tuđom zaslugom. Zašto onda vršiti pritisak na “svoju” ekipu? Ugovor je potpisan sa vozačem i sa McLaren-om. Kada se ide naprijed i kada se ide nazad, svi su jednako pogođeni. Zašto se moraš isticati toliko Fernando? Šta je tvoja referentna tačka? Poznat si, osvajao si titule, materijalno obezbjeđen, pametan, lijep i zdrav, imaš sve, drugi jedu iz kontejnera.  Plaćen si, skini taj Hondin znak i idi dalje ili se malo prizemlji. Umjesto da brundaš, radi sa ekipom.

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In Spain, Honda started from the seventh position, confirming the slow, reliable and constant progress. In the race itself, things were not in favor of Fernando, we are sorry but it was result of intensity of the desire. It doesn’t work that way. In Japan, a gradual but constant changes are part of the Life philosophy where ego and ambition are  controlled. Honda wants to work alone, does not want to be on track, for the sake of someone else’s merit. Why nudging  “Your” team? The contract was signed with a driver and with McLaren. When going forward or going back, all players are equally affected. Why do you have to stand out so much, Fernando? What is your point of reference? You’re famous, you won the title, situated, smart, beautiful and healthy, you have everything, others eat from containers.  You are paid for what you do, take the Honda sign off bro, and go further in a modest way. Instead of talking around, work with the team.

Honda F1 Support team – AK RT

 

Review – DMT-RC -T91

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DMT-RC

Obećali smo da ćemo se javiti sa pogledom na D-Mack gume koje smo po prvi put probali na takmičenju u Mostaru. D-Mack je FIA dobavljač od 2011, pa 5 godina iskustva na takmičenjima nije za odbaciti. Koristili smo DMT–RC gumu u najmekšoj varijanti (T91 – soft). Guma je iz kategorije “Asphalt Rally” sa Dot i E oznakom, tako da je dozvoljena u cestovnoj upotrebi. Kako je to u principu rally guma bočni zidovi su izuzetno tvrdi, što nas je, s obzirom da nemamo iskustva, iznenadilo. Guma na 1.5 bar ili na 2.2 bara (radni pritisak) ponaša se praktično isto jer se u slučaju smanjenog pritiska drži na bočnim stranama.

Dizajnirana je da obezbijedi visoke performanse na suhim i vlažnim podlogama.

Dolazi u četiri verzije:

T5 – Hard – gdje je optimalna radna temperatura  18 – 35 stepeni C,

T7 – (Medium) – od 10 – 22 stepena C,

T9 – (Soft)           – od -6 – 22 stepena C.

W2 – (Wet)  – pruža optimalne performanse na mokrim podlogama

Ono što smo primijetili “pod rukom” je da je guma  mekša od postojećih guma u soft varijanti koje smo vozili. I pored ograničenja u dimenziji 195/50/15,  rezultat nije izostao pa smo na njima odvezli najbolje vrijeme auta (na prednji pogon) od 12.7 sec. Prije toga vozilio smo Toyo R888 u dimenziji 205/55/15.  Subjektivni osjećaj je da bi za Rally ili krug bila izvanredna, ali isto tako i da bi se vrlo brzo potrošila.

Cijena je relativno dobra, 115 EUR komad, ako možete riješiti prevoz.

Zaključili bi da iako nije napravljena za trke ubrzanja, do 350 HP će bez problema držati asfalt.

Mi idemo u potragu za većom i skupljom (  :((   )dimenzijom.

AMK RT

Rezultati Old School Street Race Mostar 2016

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Iza nas je fantastičan vikend, poznavajući Jožefa i Mešu, jednio nismo poznavali Žutog (koji nas je ugostio kada smo vozili Krešinu trku – HVALA),  znali smo da će organizacija biti fantastična.

(pozdrav Kreši)

U subotu preko 100 automobila, opasna konkurencija, vozila preko 1000 HP.  Najveći broj HONDI – učesnika u utrci u Mostaru ikada.

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AMK Racing Team ponovo na prvim pozicijama:

  1. Klasa 17 – Samir Oprašić – Prvo mjesto
  2. PRO P1 FWD – Emir Heljić – Prvo mjesto sa do sada najboljim rezultatom i vremenom auta od 12.737 sec. 

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Pored zahvale organizatoru na fantastičnoj organizaciji, želimo da se zahvalimo:
1. http://motel-kolo.com/ – Dragane, hvala. Apartmani su Hotel sa 5 zvjezdica, a ne motel. Bili smo gosti mnogih hotela, ali oni ti nisu ni do koljena. Bazen, usluga, održavanje sve famozno.

2. PetrolHead fotography – Emit – dio ekipe, ali se potrudio da ispoštuje svakog. Pocrvenio ko rak i opet napravio najbolje fotografije sa utrke ikad.

3. ArC Racing  – Keno dobavio gume, licence – poseban review ide kasnije. Suad Hota – sve kako si rekao unaprijed ispalo je tako uključujući i probleme sa mašinom.

4. Honda – Hvala cijenjenom konstruktoru. Znali smo da je motor ostećen,  Dvije voženje prošli put bez ulja uzele su danak, motor je za vikend ipak izdržao par vožnji i ostvarenih 12.737 sec.

5. Zahvala Nataši (Kristijan Kurečić) – imala je kafe kad nas je zabolila glava kada niko drugi nije imao.

6. Micko Milan Stanivuk – MKM Racing iz Banjaluke – (Radmila i ekipa svaka čast)

7. Aidi, Almi i Dalili što su šutke odobrile da idemo uživati u vikendu.

8. Roditeljima koji su djecu čuvali dok žene rade.

9. Hvala Ivanu Čupiću koji se kao niko potrudio da dovede sve te Honde na skup, a i na stazu. Jednom je g. Soichiro Honda izjavio:  

“If Honda does not race, there is no Honda.”

Izvor: “https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Soichiro_Honda

10. Benjaminu Palikući za nesebičnu podršku u svemu.
B seriju ćemo dovesti u red aBd, a onda krećemo sa K serijom  – full NA engine.

Sljedeći put:  Honda Fan Dani Zenica – 09. i 10.07.2016

Amk Racing Team

Auto-moto kalendar za naredni period


Utrka ubrzanja “Old School Street race Mostar 2016” te Internacionalni Honda meet, planirani za naredni vikend 11 i 12.06.2016 pomjeraju se za vikend 18. -19.06.2016., pa je raspored sljedeći:

honda meet mostar

  • 18.06.2016 – Šampionat BH u auto slalomu – Link
  • 18. – 19.06.2016 – Old School Street race Mostar
  • 19.06.2016 – Internacionalni Honda meet BiH – Link za prijave
  • 19.06.2016 – Brdska trka “Nagrada Istočnog Sarajeva 2016” – Link
  • 25. – 26.06.2016 –  Grobnik Street Race & Drift Show
  • 06. – 07.08.2016 – Priština Street race No2
  • 13. – 14.08.2016 – Street Race Livno No1. – Link
  • 03. – 04.09.2016 – Osijek Street Race Show 17
  • 17. – 18.09.2016 – Auto Moto Show Mostar No2